Ah, you cheated! ;-) Not really though. I left that clue on purpose. The first time around I had accidentally left their whole names in the file name, but then I decided just to put in the initials. Good job on the gbs one. Even with the initials it's not so easy to figure out.
And good job to the rest of you too who managed along even without the initial help. ;-)
Anywho, the point of all of this was to show how frum people can look if you just give 'em a beard and a hat. It's no secret that all the folks except R' Feinstein were/are complete atheists or otherwise skeptical.
Not so about Darwin, he did have a Christian faith. Unfortunately for him, he was around before there was the Christian right to tell him that evolution was a no-no. He definitely saw evolution as a process managed by divine providence.
"He definitely saw evolution as a process managed by divine providence."
Yeah, I don't think so. See these quotes:
"But I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and I should wish to do, evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created that a cat should play with mice."
and
"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."
While I definitely wouldn't call Darwin an atheist - and there are instances of him implying an agnostic view - I really cannot say where exactly he believed the place of God was in the mechanisms of evolution. He intentionally refused to speak about that subject matter and stuck to the science as far as he could.
At the very best, I would say he was deeply conflicted about religion but he may have held some religious beliefs even until the end of his life.
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Bottom one is Freud? Middle two are Rabbis...top right is not a Rabbi, not sure about top left
Given that I was following the discussion at XGH, I feel like it would be cheating for me to answer. =(
LT,
I only mentioned the first one by GH's blog. The rest are still wide open.
ill give you a million dollars, amazing randi (bottom picture)
Top picture is Darwin.
The only other one I know for sure is Freud - middle left.
next up is rav moshe to the right.
(he is the one thing)
on top is darwin, the two inbetween im not sure:
frued nex to rav moshe.
then one of the richest people in the world or ?
I know the top one! Rabbi Chaim Darwin. The Galapagos Rebbe.
Any of them Amish?
OK, so Reb Moshe is the odd one out.
Others are Charles Darwin, George Bernard Shaw, Sigmund Freud and James Randi.
You left a clue when you put the initials in the jpg names. Otherwise I think I'd only know Reb Moshe and Darwin. What does that say about me?
Kibi,
Ah, you cheated! ;-) Not really though. I left that clue on purpose. The first time around I had accidentally left their whole names in the file name, but then I decided just to put in the initials. Good job on the gbs one. Even with the initials it's not so easy to figure out.
And good job to the rest of you too who managed along even without the initial help. ;-)
Anywho, the point of all of this was to show how frum people can look if you just give 'em a beard and a hat. It's no secret that all the folks except R' Feinstein were/are complete atheists or otherwise skeptical.
only interesting in a modern context. way back when, eveyone wore hats, and beards were also quite common.
Also, let's be honest, way back when everyone was a yorei shomayim and knew ganz shas by heart - even the goyim.
yeah that is a good point; forgot about that bit. :)
Not so about Darwin, he did have a Christian faith. Unfortunately for him, he was around before there was the Christian right to tell him that evolution was a no-no. He definitely saw evolution as a process managed by divine providence.
GR,
"He definitely saw evolution as a process managed by divine providence."
Yeah, I don't think so. See these quotes:
"But I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and I should wish to do, evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created that a cat should play with mice."
and
"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."
While I definitely wouldn't call Darwin an atheist - and there are instances of him implying an agnostic view - I really cannot say where exactly he believed the place of God was in the mechanisms of evolution. He intentionally refused to speak about that subject matter and stuck to the science as far as he could.
At the very best, I would say he was deeply conflicted about religion but he may have held some religious beliefs even until the end of his life.
ROFL
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