Sunday, March 02, 2008

Barbs in Your Eyes, Thorns in Your Sides

Alright, here were are again in July 2006. Hundreds of rockets are being shot indiscriminately at Israeli civilians from Islamic terrorists from lands recently vacated by Israeli troops. The UN, EU, Muslim countries, watchdog groups, the Pope and your leftist mother are clamoring to morally undermine Israel and her absolute right to defend herself by tying Israel's arms behind her back with calls for proportionate response and an immediate end to the violence.

How typical. Where the hell were these people for the last forever when Hamas was doing its best to provoke Israel by targeting civilians with these rockets? "Suck it up" they say to Israel. How tolerant do you think any other country in the world would be to a constant barrage of rockets falling on their border towns? Double standard BS.

This endless fighting with Gaza and Hamas is deeply absurd. You let Hamas fire endlessly at Israeli citizens and the Gazans celebrate Hamas for fighting against the Zionists and Israelis die. If you fight back against Hamas then Israeli soldiers die in the fighting, Hamas militants hide among the civilians, Gazan civilians die, the people rally around Hamas for fighting for them and world opinion turns on Israel. Hamas has no interest in building a Palestinian nation. They love anarchy and destruction because it only fuels their power and ability to harm Israel.

What the hell are you supposed to do with these kinds of people?

It's times like these that I am sorely tempted by ideas that involve transferring the Gazan population somewhere else. I don't care where, but if these people can't live peacefully next door then why should Israel have to tolerate them? What kind of world is this? At no other place or time in history has a weaker party been the aggressor with such aplomb. They fear no real consequences because the world won't let there be any. And they call it a Holocaust! The world not just allows, but actively enables this conflict to fester and fester.

"This is what the LORD says: 'For three sins of Gaza, even for four, I will not turn back my wrath . Because she took captive whole communities and sold them to Edom, I will send fire upon the walls of Gaza that will consume her fortresses.'" - Amos 1:6-7


Jewish Atheist said...

Maybe it's the least-awful option?

Anonymous said...

Thank G-d the Holocaust denier Abbas has suspended "peace talks" with Israel. Hopefully the PA will collapse already before they would get started again.

As regards Olmert and the other deluded Israelis I have perfect Pesukim for them that I don't want seen literally G-d forbid fulfilled but is bound to be fulfilled enough.

Isaiah Chapter 6
...9. And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear hear, but do not understand. See see, but do not perceive.
10. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and return, and be healed...

Rabban Gamliel said...

Whoops Anonymous was me.

alex said...

"It's times like these that I am sorely tempted by ideas that involve transferring the Gazan population somewhere else."

I'm curious, How does that "sore temptation" pan out?

Orthoprax said...


"Maybe it's the least-awful option?"

While I cannot see what the future holds and therefore I cannot be certain, I don't believe the ideology of Hamas is capable of peace with Israel. There is no hope then when some significant portion of the Palestinian population supports their actions and goals.

One terrible event, like yanking a broken bone back in place, is immediately horrible but then it's over and real healing is possible. With Hamas growing ever-increasingly established and fomenting in the open wound that is Gaza, healing is never possible and it could lead to systemic infection. Israel needs to route out Hamas as fully as is possible. Otherwise Gaza is a ticking clock until something really terrible breaks loose.


Although I'm no fan of the PA, I still believe that some peace and division of the land is ultimately necessary for the continued demographic and democratic viability of the Jewish state. Either we do that or we're looking at endless war and occupation. I don't foresee this happening any time soon, but that's the ball to keep our eyes on.


"I'm curious, How does that "sore temptation" pan out?"

Uusually poorly. It stinks too much of ethnic cleansing, but I don't think I would protest if the Israeli government decided it was the right move for the long-term peace and security for Israel as well as for the Gazans. It has a sense to it.

frumskeptic said...

It seems as if the only "right" thing to do would be for Israel to just ignore the fact that they may harm "innocent" civilians in the process of finally having peaceful living standards.

The problem us, us Jews are so damn ethical, that we cannot fathom killing "innocents"

Its so darn frustrating.

Orthoprax said...

I think it is the height of absurdity that these people take strategic advantage of our morality. They openly appeal to the same Geneva conventions that they so eggregiously violate.

Miri said...

What the Israeli government really ought to do is learn how to play the game as well as Hammas does; e.g, agree to all the concessions in the world on the strict condition that a)they stop calling for Israel's destruction and b) they stop bombing our innocent civilians during times of peace. That way, everyone is legitimately p.c. without having to give anything away.
Btw, you people are all aware that Sderot has been bombed non-stop, literally every single day, since the end of the Lebanon war, right? I mean, there was like a month or something where nothing was happening, but that was it.

mevaseretzion said...

I agree with the sentiments of your post, OP. Great post!